Spring 2008 Impressions: Light of my life, fire of my loins
You know what they say — when life gives you loli, you make lollipops an anime.

what hardcore lolicons must look like to the rest of the world
Or so would appear to be the premise of a show like Kurenai. Despite how the man on the street might have misgivings about the loli aesthetic, I prefer to think that much of its criticism stems from the inability of a fan to differentiate. Do we call Aishiteruze Baby loli? No, we call it a respectable shoujo series that we wouldn’t be ashamed to read in front of our family and friends. Do we call Card Captor Sakura and the Nanoha franchise loli? Yes. Why the double standards, then?
This illuminating post (very very NSFW) by Hemisphere yesterday comes at the right time, for I was mulling over how Kurenai fits in the bigger picture of things. deathkillz also wrote about this at length — it’s not a loli anime, at least not in the regular sense of the term, and you must have quite the atrophied brain to think otherwise. While I figured I could poke fun at the ever hysterical American Western attitudes towards how Japan handles this seemingly volatile subject while exhausting the thesaurus entry on “idiot“, why take the easy way out?
The problem lies with the statement “X anime”, where X is an aesthetic or genre (e.g. yuri, kemonomimi, moe, bishounen, harem, fighting, sci-fi, fantasy). It’s genetically flawed and immensely stupid in the sense that the statement reduces a show to a single component, usually for the sake of judging, and denigrating it. I’ve written about this at length with regards to Lucky Star, and while I’m sure that curing the fandom of this verbal disease permanently is impossible, I feel duty-bound to at least speak up about it.

this picture is obviously taken out of context
Take for example the statement “ef is a harem anime”. I’ve actually said something like this myself when I first heard about it on IRC, only to be severely chastised for it by fans of the game that were present, who corrected me by noting that a) it was a series of intertwined stories about 3 couples b) did not have a gender balance skewed in favour of a guy protagonist c) had none of the fanservice, rivalry, slapstick, or light-hearted feel that would otherwise accompany shows of such a genre. It was a pretty ignorant statement, and one that I made out of the knowledge that it was an eroge adaptation, and nothing else.
If you’re beginning to see where I’m coming from after that paragraph, congratulations! Otherwise, something like Ctrl+W or Alt+F4 would be appropriate at this point. I use this illustration not because I’m a great fan of ef or anything, but because it was a common statement to make in a season with several other famous adaptations like kimikiss and Clannad airing alongside it. The same holds true for Kurenai, which deserves more than just the misnomer “loli anime”, if it’s been called that already.
The problem with aesthetics like loli or moe in anime, however, lie in the fact that the context surrounding said series fashions it. If it’s placed inconspicuously alongside the many other elements that happen to make up the anime or manga, it blends in with the background and nothing else is said about it. If said element is given prominence, however, what results is a hasty labelling and pre-judging of what would otherwise be an entertaining piece of work, something that’s apparently not considered by many.

this one, however, occurs directly after the first picture and isn’t
There’s the weak arguments that critics of Kurenai will try to pull out of their ass in a bid to discredit what I’m saying, like the occasional scene of Murasaki changing or the bath scene that happens to take place in the second episode. There’s this unfortunately antagonistic Western attitude (overrepresented by Americans on the internet) of what I like to call “pseudo-paedophile hysteria” that always rears its ugly head whenever it comes to debating matters like these, but unfortunately, I’ve already taken that into account.
To pull out the fanservice card here is the worst argument against Kurenai that I can think of, and only because the scenes present so far have been carefully integrated into the storyline, happen as naturally and realistically as possible, and isn’t something tossed in as an afterthought to titillate any possible fans inclined towards that fetish. Then there’s the fact that bathing together with the opposite sex in Japan, if one or both of the people involved haven’t reached puberty, is perfectly acceptable and not at all a sexual thing, but anyone who’s watched a decent amount of anime probably knows about that.
It’s too bad that after the Seven Seas/Kodomo no Jikan controversy, separating loli from its sexualised counterpart is Sisyphean at best. Hemisphere puts it best when he says that there’s a difference between those who like it for the physical characteristics portrayed, and those who like it for the personality portrayed — a portrait of innocence personified; something that many people fail to grasp, resulting in widespread and frustrating Philistinism.

insert something about a balanced anime diet here
More importantly, what do I think of Kurenai? As far as the two episodes I’ve seen so go, it’s perfect. Those who have criticised it for its “ugly character designs” happen to be the same barbarians that bateszi called out not too long ago for refusing to accept anything other than the norm — I quote him not because I subscribe fully to his decidedly extremist view of eagerly embracing anything and everything that veers off the beaten path, but because it’s precisely this type of fan that irks me, the type that expects everything to look like something that stepped off the pages of a CLAMP work.
By “perfect” I mean that it’s first and foremost a solid character-driven work, an anime that puts emphasis on slowly developing the day-to-day life of our unwitting bodyguard Shinkurou and his latest assignment, Murasaki. One noteworthy element is how by the second episode we’re already party to what seems like a major theme that they’re going to explore, “Facets”, and the way in which they’re going to reconcile Shin’s visceral, inhuman side with the softer caregiver image that he presents to Murasaki is one I’m highly anticipating, if only for the ensuing drama and potentially heartbreaking tragedy factor.
Kurenai’s also a show that assumes that those watching it have the basic intelligence levels required to put two and two together without drowning them in exposition or backstory, a value that I hold in high regard in my anime. I really appreciate the way in which we’re thrown in the thick of things without a voice-over or scene that introduces the viewer to the world; rather, we’re treated to something more commonly found in written fiction than anime, where the setting is slowly pieced together like a stick of yakitori rather than laid out like items on a breakfast plate.

if it’s any consolation, he gets beaten to a pulp around a minute later
Rare? You bet. While you might appreciate a visual style that isn’t found in your everyday anime or a frenetic and engaging plot, the combination of a lack of hand-holding and strong emphasis on character more than anything else has attracted my attention, and two episodes is all it’s taken for Kurenai to leave such a strong impression on me. Moogy got it right when he said, albeit jokingly, that Kurenai was a mixture of Aishiteruze Baby and Darker than Black in his epic ANN satire post. As DtB happened to be the best anime of 2007 for me, it goes without saying that I’ll be anticipating this eagerly every week.


I’m really surprise to see how well this series is being received. At first I thought it’s viewership would go the way of Baccano! but this very well may be one of the most popular shows of the season.
NOTALOLI ^^
Why does Owen suck? Nobody knows. All anyone knows is that he just does.
I mean, just look at that tag cloud!
Whoredom at its finest :(
‘You can always count on a murderer for fancy prose style.’ Anyway, you do know that brutal, unfair generalisation is how language is generated, right? See your seventh paragraph.
This reminds me of all those characters who look like they are 12, but are supposedly 21. Using this very simple trick, or making X character a traumatized (and therefore absurdly naive, like say a child) or doll type lets everyone pretend that no funny business is going on.
lk must have seen Lucky Star in the tag cloud and blanched. What a failure.
Ryan A: You wouldn’t be too off in that estimation, though, considering Kurenai’s not been getting that much love compared to other shows. I blame it on the especially high-quality picks this season.
IKnight: I concur, but I’m not exactly sure if I’m on the same wavelength as your comment.
I skipped to the impressions.
Wait…..wait, where is it…
…wrong blog. =(
I got as far as the part about the fire in your loins… eeeeew…
I do believe that Kurenai will be a very good series to watch. I never thought of it as a loli anime. As an American myself, I can’t see how there are a lot of others who would think that vaguely of it. I would say common & sense would be enough for people to see that this is not just a loli/moe/etc. type of anime, but then again I guess there isn’t a lot of people who have that too. There a lot of people who would just jump the gun when learning new things in different culture. I just think some people just don’t take the time to appreicate it and therefore don’t get the full understanding of what “this and that of anime” are. But yea that is what I think that is one issut that is going on for these misunderstandings.
This and Kaiba (assuming that Kaiba is AMAZING) will be my favorite shows of the season, no doubt about it.
So this is why you asked for what the Japanese equivalent of kebab was.
kurenai = gorgeous
I agree with asdf. People who called Kurenai ugly are moe-obsessed idiots and deserve to be punched in the neck.
The ‘pseudo-paedophile hysteria’ is something I’m familiar with just from watching the news – literally one or two nasty incidents of child abduction hit the headlines and suddenly parents up and down the land assume that their kids are going to be snatched away by men in trenchcoats on their way to school. Google ‘Brass Eye’ to see how the UK has blown the issue out of all proportion (I also recall a story about a PAEDIATRICIAN getting hassle from semi-literate morons – human stupidity never ceases to amaze me).
So yeah, to Western eyes Kurenai is a loli show because it has a kid in it and – shock, horror – the kid is shown taking a bath. I can’t say I’m surprised that people jump to that conclusion. It’s a shame really because Kurenai has all the makings of a great drama/thriller with dashes of comedy. Plus the fact that the artwork is absolutely stunning.
It’s rather common in Asian films to see child nudity in a nonsexual way. For example, HK movies used to have lots of little boys running with dicks hanging out and peeing in people’s faces. Japanese movies also, has that at times but minus the peeing. It seems to only make sense because little boys do run around with penises (micro) hanging out. Yet in the west, such acts will instantly be accused of catering to the paedophilic crowd.
Kurenai has totally zero fan service with regards to Murasaki. Anyone who thinks that is fanservice must be a) paedophile or b) hidden selfrighteous paedophile or c) malaysian.
Kure-nai reminds me of The Guardian of the Sacred Spirit except with the genders reversed.
Shinkorou = Balsa
Murasaki = Prince Chagum
Kind of like how some people get angry at the nudity in My Neighbour Totoro, I can’t see how Westerners would continually find a problem with such things despite it being presented tastefully and in the name of art and storytelling. I’d only be worried if they select certain angles to show. But then again I continually underestimate ingrained cultural discourses from a media model that programs people to fear even walking out of the house.
I’d watch Kurenai if I could get access to it, without feeling like a dirty old man. I guess the issue is how we read it culturally.
“I’ve seen so go, it’s perfect. Those who have criticised it for its “ugly character designs” happen to be the same barbarians that bateszi called out not too long ago for refusing to accept anything other than the norm”
I laughed. I hate people like that. Kaiji has the same issues in the community. And I really like Kaiji so I get annoyed at people like that.
I don’t know why I was hesitant to watch Kure-nai. The plot sounded cool. Maybe I was just worried about it being slow (for someone who watched Kaiji…..that is the most ironic thing I can say) more likely I was hesistant just because.
And on Renjou’s line
“You woman are vile creautures who do things based on foolish ideals”
Foolish ideals indeed. Actually caring about what children are able do with their lives…foolish ideals indeed (Insert sarcasm if you couldn’t realize it)
“I’d watch Kurenai if I could get access to it, without feeling like a dirty old man. I guess the issue is how we read it culturally.”
I don’t know if I’m the only one having this problem, but though I’ve been really enjoying the first few episodes (except the musical one) it’s getting closer and closer to making me feel like a dirty old man. I understand Murasaki was being platonic in episode 9, but I can’t help but feel like maybe it is “loli”, but a million times better-written and better-characterised than we’re used to expecting.
I’ll probably keep watching it for a while since the show quality in general is so high but it is really starting to make me uncomfortable.